Homo Homini Lupus Est
The danger of false-positives is surely looming here, but I can’t really criticize it while having no better, more flawless, solutions.
One thing to eradicate would be the social stigma of just being accused of something. Which not always means one is guilty of the accusation. We should treat those equal to others until their guilt is proven, if possible.
I’m with you here. It is depressing. As most matters that kinda involve our species. And there rarely are absolute solutions. We mostly just approximate a good solution and rarely border perfection.
Sure, false positives might be higher than I made them up, but most likely still lower than true positivis. And yes, even one life-destroying false-positive makes the whole system questionable. Is one person worth 10 others? Or 5? Or even 2?
If it is the best idea we currently have, I’d side with Spock (the many vs the few), but am not really satisfied. My high demand for exact justice is rarely sated 😞
I’m with you that it isn’t perfect. I also don’t assume malicious intent from you.
But (probably depending a lot on location) here nothing is done to protect victims. I work for free in a shelter where abused people end up, and the impotence they face is maddening. Unless your stalker viciously attacks or even kills you, nothing can and will be done.
Sure, you’re right, if the accused stalker is no stalker at all, every system fails. But that applies to everything in the justice-system. We can never ever be 100% sure. Countless people were executed worldwide just to later learn they were innocent.
BUT I would bet that the amount of false-positives is much smaller than the amount of true positives. So maybe 50 victims is helped, 1 innocent non-stalker pays a hefty price. Numbers pulled outta my arse, but provably not too far off.
Question is, better a not perfect system or none at all? Better to protect 2 victims or protect 1 innocent? Ideally both, but also near impossible.
It is also a very thin veil here. A stalker, by definition, hasn’t done anything really solid criminal YET. But the victim is in real danger. Where to draw the line and how to proove being followed (or not following someone)?
Never actually tried. Guess they check your valid input there too, yes? I so hate recaptcha and lazy devs using it.
Same here (krautland). My brain is not adaptable to accepting this 10% less toast
Zero, I never ever solve one. Do I look like some ant that works for free to train your shit google?
Persistence in giving wrong answers is key. And if it won’t help, a boycott of the site/service and a mail to the admin. Noone cares, I know. Even the AI-hater obediently solve recaptchas.
Oh wait…I actually DO overthink it, it seems. Even beyond the borders of the task itself 😁
Oh no, I’m so flabbergasted! A US-bigtec’s chatbot’s “conversations” are monitored and read? How shocking and unexpected.
Maybe the best tactic to keep confidential information confidential is, well, to keep it confidential and not put into some chatbot. But what do I know…
Well, if someone is falsefully labeled a stalker, then what happens? He won’t come near.
Also, as said, the chance this stalker is already fine with being tracked all around by every device he owns, is probably near 100, so who cares?
…and a great security/relief for victims. I’m a vivid apologetic for privacy and security, but this seems like an acceptable thing.
People seem to be fine to be transparent and 24/7 surveilleid with their phones. Some even seem to be fine to install doorcams from US-bigtech or spy-devices that can switch on a light. Heck, they even pay for those!
This at least is a vers useful application of privacy invasion.
…i would fear people who actually would believe such a thing. You don’t need a phd in medicine to know otherwise. Heck, you don’t even need any school-knowledge for that.
Isn’t there at least one person for ANY kind of bullshit? Also, the father of medicine said once: “everything is lethal, the dosage is what matters” 😁
And that’s the nonsense about it. We’re not talking about cars or such, but a general concept. And most likely take one or two specific applications of it and use it as a definition of the thing itself. And even with cars you couldn’t condemned them because tanks exists, and ignore ambulances or such.
Also, it’s usually the exact same group that also mostly uses products of what they hate so much. Microsoft, google, Facebook or any us-american bigtec. If LLMs would be as bad as they say it is, stop funding it. Simple. Really really simple. I don’t use any of those, so it’s possible to actually protest besides big word and vote by wallet.
Well, tbh, if someone has an opinion that isn’t swayable by facts, why should I take that person seriously? It’s like talking with religious nutjobs. They already have all “answers”.
The facts are clear, relatively simple, and accessible by everyone. And “evil” is generally considered bad. But LLMs are not just “that precise one thing” that could be declared evil. It’s a concept. The application of it changes the good/evil attribution. Chatbot? Obviously bad. Helping to determine cancer in a Patient? Good. Etc.
If people don’t WANT to argue because they already joined a “AI is the devil”-cult, so be it. Not my job to convince anyone of anything 😊
If that fills your clueless heart with joy, be my guest 🤷🏻
Just because it was a nicely worded statement, doesn’t make it universal.
I use a local LLM for our smart home. It wastes a Lil bit of energy, which is still faaaar below my 1500W while gaming. Is gaming evil now? It helps dramatically in ways that were never possible before like “turn on all lights at 40% in the color purple and also turn on music. My fav playlist” followed by a “no, use a warm color and close all windows”.
Not every LLM is a fucking chatbot that eats the planet to “create” a shitty cat-meme for Granny’s Facebook.
Don’t assume everyone uses silly chatbots. That is ONE application of LLMs, and it is indeed stupid and kills out environment for basically no benefit.
Exactly. Seems you understood the point. Also same as cars, planes, spoons and machetes.
“AI is just a tool” - #1 thing said by tools.
#1 thing said by arrogant turds with no clue.
“Ai” isn’t inherently evil. It’s just a tool. An incredibly interesting and marvelous tool, in theory.
What we make of it and how we use it matters. Noone needs stupid chatbots. People should only be allowed to use them after graduating an exam of what they actually are and how they work. In the current state they’re 90% bullshit and harmful.
But LLMs surely have great and reasonable applications. People often fear what they don’t really understand. And LLMs really are a topic that often even “techies” don’t get, so why should a layman.
Yes, they are environmental Desasters. But try to substract all the trillions of silly nonsensical queries millions of people hammer into chatbots, that once were simple search-engine - queries. And it’s not THAT bad anymore.
What an intelligent “study”…
Know what a tool is for, how it works, how you operate it, then use it for the best possible application in the optimal way and be disappointed just partly, not completely.
It’s like trying to use a bike to drive backwards up a mountain with one foot on pedal and one behind your head. Chances for success are slim, but not zero!
If you say things like “educate yourself” followed by youtube-links…I mean, on a us-american schoolyard this might be valued as “education”, but…well…