• N0t_5ure@lemmy.world
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    1 month ago

    This so broad and vague as to be unconstitutional. It’s like mandating that computers have to have technology that prevents hate speech. A 3d printer, like a computer, a hammer, a pencil, or the myriad of other tools humans use is just a general tool that can be put to good or bad uses. It would be insane to require anti-skull bashing technology for hammers and it is crazy to burden 3d printer manufacturers to develop technology to try to do this. Moreover, 3d printers are just one way to make ghost guns. A better way may be just home CNC. Instead of additive technology laying down layers of plastic one by one, with home CNC you can take a block of metal and machine it out, subtractive technology. The bill does not impact home CNC. So dumb!

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      1 month ago

      We should pass a law that all knives have to know what purpose they are being used for and should refuse to be used for stabbing or otherwise hurting people.

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      1 month ago

      No, California already does lots of gun regulation.

      If anything, I think this is the result of a culture in which they’re looking for ways to do more when there’s no much more they can really do without federal changes.

      It’s fucked up. California legislators just do not really care about surveillance or civil rights at this this point.

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        1 month ago

        I think this is the result of a culture in which they’re looking for ways to do more

        Well, except for actually effective policies like better access to mental health care and reducing socioeconomic inequality. Because that would take actual effort.

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    1 month ago

    Now all the 3D printing bros get to experience what life is like as a firearm bro.

    The laws are not so bad but it’s the malicious compliance of retailers and manufacturers that will make your hobby nearly impossible.

    Oh but if you have plenty of money there are no issues for you.

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      1 month ago

      Hm nah this is mostly about commercial printers. As a 3d printer hobbieist I can build it from the ground up so I wouldn’t care much

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        1 month ago

        The mechanical hardware build is no problem, building a controller and firmware is a different matter. This legislation is all about the firmware.

        I have some experience with 3d printing equipment but I’m not sure I could build a controller from the ground up. To be fair, I’ve never really looked into it so maybe it’s easier than it seems.

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          You can buy a controller at any place that sells motors or Arduinos. None of my printers have their stock controller.

          The firmware most controllers run is often a modified version of one of the different open source 3d printer firmwares (klipper, Marlin, etc)

          You can even choose to compile and flash the firmware yourself (often just load bin file to sdcard and insert into board)

          But all of that is moot because the controller and firmware are not capable of that level of processing. You would have to implement it on the slicer level, and even that wouldn’t work because most of them are open source.

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    1 month ago

    The real problem was always the grip being the serialized part of a firearm…

    As long as that’s true, firearm regulations are easy to circumvent.

    “Fire Control Units” make more sense, but is still just kicking the can down the road. Eventually those would be home made too.

    It’s like racoon-proofing a trashcan, if you do it step by step, all you’re doing is teaching raccoons to break into trash cans. If you start out secure enough, they never learn.

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      1 month ago

      Somebody once suggested removing all restrictions on the sale and possession of firearms, but severely regulating ammunition.

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          TMK, while ammunition is somewhat regulated already, it’s even easier to manufacture with minimal resources. Hobbyists have been manufacturing ammunition for a very long time. In the short term, those manufacturers would fill in the demand gap left by factory ammo.

          It would certainly make ammunition more expensive, and thus potentially curb unnecessary use, but a lot of that unnecessary use is a big predictor WRT safe use, so I’m not entirely sure the net effect would be positive in the long term either.

          Also, as a general note…

          Since fascist governments always seek a monopoly on violence, the fact that I’ve been pro gun control for a very long time hasn’t stopped me from turning my head on the issue.

          Many comrades will undoubtedly disagree with me on this point, but:

          I think now is not the time for leftists to be pro gun control.

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            Yep. Someone safely using their gun and teaching others how to safely use theirs can easily go through thousands of rounds in a pretty short time period. Someone murdering with one only needs a few rounds ever. Restricting ammo sale quantity only hurts safe and legal users.

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              1 month ago

              If it discourages people from owning guns or getting into guns as a hobby, then it makes society overal safer.

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                1 month ago

                Abstinence only education doesn’t work. Gun safety training is critical for safe use.

                Being against gun safety is an extremely counterproductive position.

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                  1 month ago

                  Lmao, “Nothing can be done to prevent this, says only nation where this regularly happens”.

                  Try and be less American.