Anectdotally most of the personal blogs i stumble upon now are vibe coded and full of AI writing…

No one ever expects… THE VEGAN INQUISITION!!!

Where is he aggressive? What ideology?

The only ideology linus follows is “dont break userspace”

is the linux kernel “the best”? because they are using AI tooling. Linus actually threatened to use LLM to maintain sparse if nobody stepped up…

is curl the best? because the creator of curl has also used/accepted LLM code…

if the creators of two of “the best” pieces of software ever made are accepting (NOT embracing or promoting… just accepting) LLM code… maybe it’s time for us to think about the possibility that this MIGHT be a useful tool instead of everyone just yelling “SLOP SLOP SLOP” everywhere…

I never shut out opposing opinions… i merely said that i’m irritated by the anti-AI purists…

1. "All AI is facist and you are a facist/far-right/nazi if you use even a little bit of it " (not what you said, but a very common statement on lemmy)

2. “AI is a potentially useful technology that has a lot of negatove externalities. Let’s work together to reduce the negatives and take the power back from big tech.”

Which one of those stances sounds more like “Shutting out the opinion of people”?

Ok, so i’m far-right (just call me a nazi) because i dont have a 100% blind hatred of AI?

this is exactly what i’m talking about… this kind of holier than thou attitude makes enemies out of potential allies

I’m sure if we had a reasonable discussion about AI we’d find 90% of our opinions align… i’m generally very against AI as it is now…

But instead you’ve already labelled me as just another pro-AI nazi because i dont pass your purity test

Its not about putting linus on a pedestal… its about these anti-AI purists declaring everyone who uses AI a nazi and all code is slop. Big tough guys saying they wont use software with even a single line of generated code.

Go ahead, fork the linux kernel then… these people will never be able to follow through with their purism, unless they go full templeOS mode

I dislike AI overall, but what i’m starting to dislike almost as much are these anti-AI purists who are holier than everyone

I’ll still shoot birds with my DSLR, but the phone has replaced 90% of my vacation photography

Damn it! Now the song is in my head just from reading “Badger Badger Badger”

I love how drivers only care about orwellian overreach when it infringes in their right to text and drive and kill people…

The vanilla copilot bundled in windows is completely useless and not suitable for enterprise use …

Any company serious about productivity gain would use something else …

I am by no means a pro-AI techbro, but my company invested into making a bespoke AI solution (yes it connects to one of the big boys on the backend) and it makes a world of difference.

I think a lot of the AI hate comes from people who have never used a paid model coupled with a good frontend…

Yeah, i’m not an idiot… i’ve already considered all those points about the downsides of using AI at work … like you said… play the game

if you really want to work on taking down Capitalism, organize your labor

How do you know i"m not using my free time at work to do exactly that?

you made a lot of assumptions about people who use AI at work …

Seriously though, what “skills” are you building by learning how to use LLMs at your corporate job?

i’m not learning any skills… i’m offloading some work on to AI so that i can do other stuff on company time…

Isn’t that what we should all aspire to? To destroy capitalism from the inside?

I agree…

But check out the other discussions on lemmy about AI …

if you’re not 100% against it, you’re a facist

I agree with you…

But be prepared to be labelled a facist on lemmy

apparently there’s no such thing as a neutral technology or tool

I think its pretty clear that an OG hacker like linus using AI as a helpful assistant is very different from a junior dev using it as a crutch

The question now is how to develop proper software engineers who have the old school skills first and foremmost, and then are able to use the assistance of an AI

Using AI is not the same as vibe coding.

i’ve been in dozens of lemmy threads that disagree…

There’s a huge portion of lemmy who think even one token of AI is unacceptable for any reason

I’m in a thread where the entire idea of AI/LLMs has been declared facist, with ZERO legitimate use cases other than facism

Your original reply to me:

i mean, not all AI is facist…

Again, i think we’re saying the same thing…

The ONLY point i was trying to make in my top level comment is that maths/technology/physics are not inherently good or bad or facist… we’ve discussed many examples of tech being used for both good and bad.

But it seems lemmy has decided (by downvotes) that AI is indeed 100% facist, with no future possibility of doing anything good

Are you actually saying nuclear power is an inherently facist technology that should have been ended before it started?

Space travel, satellites, and all related tech are also facist

IBM worked with the nazis, so throw out your phone and your computers…

nothing in this world will ever pass lemmy’s purity tests…

Honestly, i’m pretty sure both of us are on the same page… but lemmy demands that things be black and white, good and evil. You havr to be 100% against AI or be labelled a facist enabler

You’re totally right about the current state of affairs with AI technology. It has been misused for net negative outcomes…

But. The very first application of nuclear fission was wiping out two cities in the blink of an eye. Should we have immediately declared all nuclear tech as evil/facist and thrown it away? Of course not… there was a lot of fear mongering about nuclear power in the years that followed, but i’m glad that we now have clean, reliable nuclear generators and other nuclear enabled tech.