Aren’t trolls supposed to rile people up and start arguments? I had a pretty peaceful conversation with a couple people. There’s nothing here to even be angry about lol.

But okay

We prove the existence of looking thru lenses all the time. We can prove color blindness, we measure prescriptions lenses.

You say I’m using a lense but the examples you are using is going threw a sun lense. I like spicy food, spicy food is hot. It doesn’t change that it’s pain. What I mean is you are also using the subjective lense of “some people enjoy it”.

I’m not reinterpreting surprise and shock, I’m stating the brain routes all that through the emotional and stressful areas of the brain then thru the reward center after.

That’s the lense being used.

“Oh I was surprised but it’s okay and safe so I fealrelief and happiness “

It doesn’t really prove anything beyond we have a varied way of processing pain and humor is designed for that purpose just like crying is.

Thats the lense as far as I’m concerned. You don’t have to feel that way but I still do even after what you’ve said.

Other than that I guess it helps to know this for the same reason it helps to know anything. So you can make predictions about life. Like the guy who’s always making edgy joke probably has a lot of pain they aren’t coping with well vs someone who tells a lot of jokes that aren’t distasteful might have a lot of pain but are handling better emotionally.

Citrus stings yes. Peppers burn. You can enjoy it but yeah I’d say that’s painful. People like bitters, it’s still bitter.

lol well I’m not a fan of surprises. From my view point it we all kind of are not fans of surprises. Our minds make predictions and when reality doesn’t pan out that way the brain is upset by that, causing a reaction.

Humor is a way to process emotions like crying is a way to process emotions.

I don’t think enjoying something necessarily means it isn’t a “pain” of sorts.

Like if I blow out a tire and say “thank god, I hated that tire” it’s just a way to process that.

I see a lot of processing of anxiety, pain, and sadness in comedy. Not all of it to the extreme but I do feel humor exsists exclusively for processing the unexpected, anxiety, and general pain of life.

To take something that feels unsafe and make it safe again. I don’t mean in just the joke I enjoy but in every joke I think I’ve ever even heard before.

That’s why I ask for one I can’t for nearly into that category of “brain does this to ease itself of discomfort”

I think expectations being wrong is a feeling of discomfort even if we push it thru the reward centers of the brain to process it.

It’s done my tire blew out because I never liked that tire anyway.

It’s processing emotion.

I like art. I get what your saying. I like roller coasters, hp lovecraft. Love the game subnautica because the open ocean is spooky.

But the pain is what you’re enjoying and that’s fine. It doesn’t make it not disgusting, or scary, or painful.

That actually loops back to my comment. Those things are enjoying a discomfort in a safe way. Like humor. It’s like a practice or immunization. in my opinion, im not an expert just a guy who has time to talk)

To be clear im not saying “all jokes therefore are fine and people need to be less sensitive “ just like im not saying “all jokes are inherently bad”.

This is a shitposting community. I’m was bored and just talking about a thought.

I just think it’s interesting. I think jokes are interesting, I think the mind is interesting.

I like to understand things as well. I have really severe adhd and I like things to click and make sense. I also like patterns and I see a pattern here.

I’m also honestly always looking for things to change my world view. If I was set on “this is the only truth” I wouldn’t bring it up at all.

It’s not a greater commentary on the world, I’m just having a fun conversation. That’s it.

I haven’t even looked this up or researched it at all, just had casual conversations with people about it a few times. It came to me because I process a lot of my emotions thru humor. I don’t really tell a lot of “edgelord” jokes or racist jokes. Mostly my jokes are pretty soft hitting absurd quips.

But I watch a lot of comedy and I just noticed a pattern and chose to talk about it.

There’s no grand point or motive. Just talking.

That’s a reference to a joke purely around frustration. That’s the pain in that joke. Extreme frustration and confusion.

Being disgusted is a feeling you enjoy?

You added the word eww for no reason then? A pizza in an oven having sentience…

Those two things make the joke funnier, why is it funnier that they are in an oven, why is it funnier that one pizza is disgusted with the other pizza? Why is the second pizza in this oven such a hypocrite

Or just the classic “oh you shocked me”

Bit I feel the pain on those jokes is again “oh I feel foolish for not expecting that”

There are different levels of pain lol. Just because we determined snake bites hurt worse than a paper cut it doesn’t mean paper cuts aren’t a version of pain. Same thing actually with the word “dark” you think nighttime is dark? Have you ever even been in a cave? That’s dark!

I’ve said nothing about the ethics of jokes. If anything you can take what I said to mean all jokes are in poor taste. That wouldn’t fit your narrative of what you think I’m saying tho so you ignored that lol the truth is I said nothing about ethics or what is appropriate.

I’m not parroting anyone. If I were I would have quoted him. More than one person can have a thought lol

Less puritanical societies… that remain nameless. Are we in a Puritanical society right now? Unless you’re going back to caveman times we’ve always been naked in private. Before that being naked wouldn’t have been funny. No one is laughing at boobs in societies that are shirtless. Same with farting. It wasn’t a joke until it was taboo.

Have you ever seen anyone rolling on the floor laughing just at a pun? I mean you mentioned me crying at knock knock jokes. Have you ever audible laughed at the talent of a pun or do you laugh because it’s stupid? Do you have any evidence of that being recent or just someone didn’t specifically write down the puns were stupid? Where is you’re source? Because we typically don’t create historic records of things that are considered “obvious”

So if I’m understanding it the moment you start cumming you go hands off?

I once heard a story about a three pigs building houses

I just asked what Dilligaf meant, you didn’t have to be so rude.

It all depends on the joke lol

That’s why I said “tell me a joke that doesn’t involve pain”

You are telling me TYPES of jokes so I’m telling you the Types of pain the might revolve around.

I can’t give you specifics about a vague concept.

Which joke would you like to talk about? Otherwise youre pretty much just saying “I’m sure there are jokes that aren’t like that”

Which it’s fine if you want to belive that but it’s not really disproving what I said.

For the record I like puns too I share them with people too. To which they always respond “ughhhhhhh” which is the normal response to a pun.

Knock knock jokes: the pain is you have been made to look foolish. You did not expect such an obvious trick. “Boo who” why are you crying it’s just a joke.

Puns: how do people react to puns? With anger. People tell puns to get that reaction from people. The pain is how cringy the joke is.

Fart noises and penises. Embarrassment at a social taboo. Something private is now public and shame is the pain of the joke. Or if some purposely the pain is the vulgarity of the joke teller and the feeling of disgust it causes .

How do we as a society react to a pun? With hatred and anger lol. There’s the pain. People who enjoy telling puns also enjoy that reaction to them.

The pain is how cringey the joke is.

Absurd humor is my favorite! But alas the joke is how shocked you feel by the absurdity. You were not expecting what was said.

All humor is dark humor. Name a joke that doesn’t revolve around someone’s pain?

We laugh and cry for the same reasons. To cope with pain.

There’s a reason the best comedians are depressed.

“My mother never breast fed me, she always said she considered more of a friend” the late great Rodney dangerfield. His jokes are funny because no one loves him and he’s left as a husk emotionally. We laugh at that. One of the best comedians of all time and he’s funny because his life sucks.

Bad day?

Thank you! I thought I was going to have to look it up myself.

Was not expecting a swamp up there lol. That caught me off guard.

Forests: okay. bare rocks: expected. A swamp? Was not picturing that lol

Throw some A1 on that and it’s still good.