you have to become the bully. Just need one generation of LGTQB to get really petty and beat the bigots at every game they consider to be their domain.

Which version of windows is arch?

You’d need to get the attention of MAGA on this if you wanted people to do stuff IRL

They’d drive a convoy around his block blasting Metallica for a week after coordinating with their friends in the police and bringing donuts to local tow companies. Maybe if you’re lucky someone on the left will flyer a coffee shop in Chicago.

Are they?

Can you lay out for me what they are doing, and who does it benefit?

Because AI is here. It’s like saying you’re going to stop oil production in Texas. It looks like the left is being used to stall progress in an emerging competitive tech industry that will shape the next century of power. Looks like a primary generator is a website that is heavily tied to Chinese propaganda.

It is it in the same way deciding not to vote Democrat in a two party system is helping MAGA.

It’s so superficial to say you don’t care to participate just because you met some confrontation that you weren’t comfortable with. It’s fine to quit. But don’t lie to yourself that it’s Benign. When you’re part of a mass exodus of people with similar views during these periods where small groups of people are using bots to sway public opinion, that is worse then deciding not to vote.

I don’t care if they’re nazi platform 3.0. The fact is that is where the public is. That is where our family and friends and Co workers and law makers and judges all are and they’re getting their information from. Saying you’re too good for it might give you a moment of relief that won’t last. The views and opinions and shit posts that the right can now lie and spread increases and that seeps into everyday life.

People for the longest time downplay digital spaces as if they’re not critical. Meanwhile they’ll also argue that billions are being spent to manipulate these spaces. I argue that part of those billions that were invested went to convincing all of us to abandon these spaces and we did willingly.

I’m starting to see a shift of people coming back. But people need to wake the fuck up and go back to what it was 15 years ago when we actually shut these racist fucks down and didn’t let them spread their bullshit. I don’t know why leftist today are such cowards, but if they continue with this stuff they’re done in the next 15 years. Most won’t even admit they did it to themselves

I let nazis spread their message because I’m choosing this one corporation to stand against even though its the most dangerous time to take our eyes and ears off them. It’s all vibes really.

This is propaganda. Its the left’s version of “roving caravans of gang members coming into the country”

What do you mean try? They are not desperate. They just are doing it. On every platform. The left is absolute cooked. There is no defense from the left against this. The left saw the writing on the wall and shot themselves in the foot over this decades ago. Now the right have the tools that the left used and because the left gave out to capitalism and profit seeking, the right was able to co-opt the platforms and use those same tools to accomplish a hostile takeover. Just wait until the kids today who experience the internet and the views spread on these platforms become adults. Maybe we can make some bean and moth memes until then.

It’s anger.

I went on Facebook earlier. I saw a post in a ‘Lord of The Rings’ group that shared a meme comparing orcs to immigrants. The whole joke was that the orc said “my son was born in the shire therefore he is a hobbit” because you know. Immigrants and refugees.

And then I saw a Bobs Burger group where the main post was the family holding up an anti Trans flag. This stuff is daily. The comments are much worse.

I see this everyday and I partially blame all of you here. So many of you here were the ‘exodus’ people. Convincing every liberal or leftist user to block and ban and remove ourselves from other areas online. Since then everything has become so much worse and even though responsibility is on the poster, I still hold so many of you responsible for quitting when you’re needed the most.

I come here to lemmy to see if anything crazy good is happening and it isn’t. Like 4chan launched whole ass investigations. A bunch of racist morons performed some of the greatest opsec in internet history. Lemmy is posting about beans and moths and I just don’t know what to do beyond being mad at you all.

And I get it, touch grass. But that doesn’t help when I log off and go out only to find that the hatred and toxicity from these major platforms is infecting the whole yard. There’s no escape. And you people who are suppose to be the resistance can’t be fucking bothered. You’re like lulled into this weird quiet existence only to be rallied under the most useless civic action imaginable every 2 years.

I just don’t know what to do other than be mad and angry.

We should be out there. Identifying these networks and the latest strategies being used to corrupt everything. We should be innovating and building protections with fediverse. Instead we got pro China moderation and censorship and bean memes. I don’t know. It’s just defeating.

Why Comment. There’s like 4 people here. Do you do this often?

Yea it’s insane. We need to get back to the idea that anyone is replaceable. That’s the safest they can be when people realizes any successful attempts wouldn’t even matter.

Security industry is incestuous

Yea you all don’t really hate on these people enough. Il never understand that

What if we can anointed a single small group of young people and PR team interns that can just dictate to us what we can and cannot do with these spaces. Blocking others also works. Being able to ignore problems is best.

So how do we bring moderation to these sites we can access using tor. Need to make sure people aren’t just doing whatever they want. That would be insane

Can those tools be used to post memes about beans and moths?

Imagine being so stupid you fall for that astroturf nonsense.

https://lemmy.world/post/6893490

I’m sorry but we had to support the 23 year old content creator who makes Garfield comics and earns $10/month. That was more important then anticipating the threat of artificial Data scarcity threat that everyone warned about 20 years ago.

It’s cool though, that artisanal comic is going to really make me laugh as the authoritarians go door to door looking for undesirables

Is your argument that Chinese government is not using technology to restrict freedoms?

How is that being upvoted

I would say that decades of western Hollywood has primed the population to mistrust any new technology and only see potential dystopian ends in exchange for entertainment. Combined with China spreading propaganda to encourage those views in western nations. Sites like lemmy and Facebook are heavily used as generators to spread mistrust.

Right but so are people. This was all inevitable from the start. Much worse stuff is coming. People should have been embracing methods to avoid this stuff decades ago. I’m not just talking about using a fucking ad blocker. There needed to be measures to fuck with data collection. Become hostile to any site’s or content creators looking to sell viewers anything. Run applications that could feed junk data back to sites.

Had people started earlier they wouldn’t be facing the giant industry that grew out of a digital spaces that welcomed the things that eventually grew into this data collection beast we all knew were coming.

Any new technology instantly gets turned into some new boogeyman instead of being embraced. Works out great for China when western people become luddite at a very critical window of opportunity from emerging technology. You’d almost think China has a strong ability to flood western sites with propaganda.