• minorkeys@lemmy.world
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    9 months ago

    ITT: We leave out the reasons for things that happened to shape the narrative into what we prefer.

    Fed up, she attacked a boy on the bus, inviting others to join her

    She physically assaulted someone and tried to get others to join in and got punished for it. Being a victim of one thing doesn’t justify becoming a perpetrator of something else.

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        9 months ago

        If you think accountability is victim blaming then your worldview is not worth listening to.

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          9 months ago

          Schrödinger accountability ? Be harassed and humiliated daily : nothing. Defend yourself : punition. She would have not strike him but the society forced her.

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            9 months ago

            Responding to a non-physical threat with physical violence is not acceptable. Society did not force her, she chose to be violent.

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              9 months ago

              It 100% is: legally, you have the right to physically defend yourself from nonviolent crime- im allowed to hit the guy trying to break into my car if he doesnt stop when I yell at him to do so.

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                9 months ago

                He’s damaging your property and putting your physical security at risk. Both are crimes of violence. It isn’t an emotional crime. If he says something mean, you don’t get to punch him.

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                  9 months ago

                  If you genuinely think that breaking into a car is less violent than making and distributing child porn of someone then there is something very wrong with you.

                  The boy was committing a sexually violent act that was designed to intimidate, humiliate and harm.

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                    9 months ago

                    It is absolutely less physically violent, I was never discussing violence in the broadest sense of the term, but physical violence.

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              9 months ago

              When you say ‘society did not force her’, what exactly do you mean by this?

              Can you spell out the scenario that you concocted in your head as to how a girl, harshly bullied by having faked nude material of her passed around school without her consent, in front of her, should correctly behave in this situation? Keeping in mind, of course, that she already went to the socially acceptable and correct official channels which did nothing to help her?

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                9 months ago

                Why don’t you ask the poster above what they meant by it and then we can discuss.

                Feelings are not an excuse to become violent, even if you don’t see any other option than to suffer.