I’ve been banned on bluesky because I choose to follow a curated group people’s accounts (I don’t remember what it was called that someone shares a bunch of people where you can choose to follow all with one click) about books which had over 100 people in it. Never went back…
That seems unlikely. More probably some random user put you on his own personal block list no one uses.
Is that why bluesky closed my account? How ignorant of me that I couldn’t realize someone personally blocked me but not the bluesky.
I was talking to some other people about books in general. Someone shared lost of accounts which you can follow I checked the accounts and saw that most are from sci-fi writers and publishers. So, I clicked follow all kind of a thing which let you follow everyone on the shared list. And afterwards my account was banned by bluesky. I told them what happened but they didn’t respond and I didn’t try again.
Yea, that didn’t happen
I doubt that was the reason lol
You have no reason to doubt that
Oh buddy
Here’s the thing.
looks around
Hmmmm, yeah. That’s what I thought. Everyone here is the wrong audience to really comment on this.
The reason peoples opinion here doesn’t matter much is because like it or not, Lemmy is a hive mindset.
Don’t like linux? Booooooo
Don’t care about open source? Boooooo
Don’t engage in antisocial behavior? Boooooo
And thats the audience here. It’s impossible for you to comment on the mental state of the general broad population when this site seemingly collects an audience that goes out of their way to stay away from the broad general population. How could you possibly relate to someone like my brother in law, who uses Windows 11, without issue? I asked him how he can stsnd all the AI, and the spying. I was expecting an actual answer, and maybe some insight as to how to not make Windows 11 the dumpster fire that it is. Instead, he defends Windows 11 with blind faith ignorance. Insisting that there is no spying in Windows 11, and the AI is actually a good thing.
And I watched as an entire room nodded along in understanding. All agreeing with these points. I realized in that moment that there is zero conversation to be had with these people. I know for fact that Windows 11 spies on you. I know for fact that there is AI in Windows 11. It’s easy to see that if left at its current rate, that AI and data centers that support AI will inevitably lead to mass water shortages.
And I’m confident that these words would land harder here on Lemmy, where I think 99% of you understand the gravity and real nature of what I’m saying.
The problem is, 99% of Lemmy’s typical userbase accounts for 0.01% of the general population. This website is a bubble. Which is a shame, because I fully believe the model for Lemmys infrastructure is the cure for the problems that the general population complain about.
But it’ll never be tested at scale. Most people do not give a fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuck about privacy, or open source, or decentralization. Facebook knows my phone number, and has photos of me. Against my consent. And my mom who’s in her 80s, who uses facebook to keep in touch with her sewing community, sees nothing wrong here.
Thats why the people here, who only support mastodon, will never understand why that stratagy won’t work for the masses. And honestly, even if it did, then it wouldn’t work for you.
Because twitter has something like 375 million users. When taylor swift wants to promote something, she does it on twitter. Because it’s where the people are. It’s also a right wing agenda platform, owned by a literal seig hailing nazi, but yet its still the default service regardless if you’re left or right. It’s just where the people are.
Here is what you have done. You saw an ocean. You took note of all the problems fish have in the ocean. You then designed a new concept where fish can swim in a tiny little manufactured pond. But if it gets too small, it can be scaled bigger. You removed the threats of being eaten. You’ve removed the fishing boats. You managed the algae. You planted seaweed so they have food. You installed everything a fish needs to have a happier healthier life from your perspective.
Except there’s no water in this pond. The fediverse concentrates so hard on the advanced features that would make for a great experience…and then forgets the basics that are needed to support life here. Social media only survives when it has an audience, just as fish only survive when they have water.
All the advanced stuff that goes unused in the fediverse means nothing without an audience. Basically if bluesky dies, the users go back to twitter.
You complain that mastodon is better. But bluesky only got popular because the general population didn’t want twitter with nazis. They wanted old twitter. Bluesky is old twitter without the nazis. Thats all they wanted. But it’s only got a tiny fraction of the audience twitter has. So again, taylor swift says her things on twitter. Not bluesky. Not enough people on bluesky to be considered the default. Just like the fediverse can’t keep fish surviving without water, the same is true on bluesky.
The order it goes is that celebrities need to say things to hold an audience. Before the internet, that platform was tv/radio. There were also a lot less celebrities. Because tv/radio just didn’t have a need to create more celebrities. But now, a celebrity can either get their message across to 375 million, or 14 million.
Celebrities go where there is an infrastructure that can handle their fame, and the audience goes where the celebrities go. Below that are us. We’re not the 14 million. Lemmy has 60k and shrinking. But for us the order goes “infrastructure THEN audience”. Which is never going to pull in a huge audience. It can support a large audience. Argueably better. But it’ll never be tested.
Hell yeah, new copypasta just dropped!
Really though, you speak some truth, but it seems like you make the case for breaking up monopolies. Of course the current political environment in the US wouldn’t allow that, but you’ve identified winner take all. I disagree about whether it’s inevitable or does it take continual coersive action to stomp out that competition?
It should have never been allowed for Facebook to take over WhatsApp and Instagram or Google taking over YouTube… It’s the opposite of what capitalism should be according to people who defend it: allowing such mega monopolies destroys the few benefits the free market has to offer. It stunts innovation and encourages enshittification and anti consumer vendor lock-in behaviour
Those people are clueless. Capitalism is this, this is it’s truest form, everything else is actually stopping capitalism from being itself and it will not yield in the long term, until you get rid of the capitalist system altogether.
The brutal truth of social networks: people don’t stay for protocols, decentralization, or good intentions. They stay because everyone else is there. Building better infrastructure is impressive. Building a habit people refuse to leave is harder.
Everyone I know who’s tried it tells me that big corporate brands and their slop / astroturfed content is why Bluesky is less enjoyable. Haven’t myself, as I’m perfectly content on Mastodon and Lemmy, so I understand that’s anecdotal.
bsky is just another VC-funded corpo platform. The initial wave of Libs who moved over gave it some gas, but ultimately, it’s just another toxic, bland platform like all the others.
I tried Bluesky. I noticed two overwhelming trends that led to my hasty departure:
Wishful thinking left-wing politics. Encouraging people to pretend like how things ought to be is how things are, and to act accordingly. This is lazy and disastrous thinking, both because it overlooks the real systemic change that needs to happen to get to where you want to be. Though, in fairness, there is quite a bit of this on Lemmy too.
Extremely popular poster who spent their entire careers making the Trump presidency a certainly trying to back pedal on Trump specifically. No mention of their awful ideas they still keep and spread that lead to such an outcome. Lots of thumbs up and people saying “see, they get it” while also not connecting the dots, as if Project 2025 fell from the sky and wasn’t the product of decades of effort.
It’s an idiot convention.
Amen.
liberal/left can’t seen to understand why they keep losing… but then makes no legit effort to like have a actionable plan for any of their political goals.
And if you suggest such actions/plan/pragmatic thinking, you’re basically voted off the liberal ‘happy think only’ island.
I’ve been left-wing I feel like for 25 years, but the entire time I left the politics was moving away from me. As much as the right parodies the left as being elitist and out of touch and delusional… it’s like the left now actively embraces that vision of themselves and actively pursues it.
You don’t need a plan, you just need to fucking vote. Not that hard.
What are you voting for if there’s no plan? Gut feeling? I like that guy?
How is that acceptable, a person who’s not even able to make up a plan is definitely not fit for government.
You turf the fascists out, then you work out a plan.
When your house is on fire, you gtfo. Worry about how you’ll rebuild it afterwards.
This is 100% the wrongminded mentality we are talking about. We need systemic change to how we vote. We need politicians with actionable plans worth voting for. We need people who understand how voting ACTUALLY works in this country. But nah, man, just fucking vote! That’s the solution!!1!
Well yeah, and none of that will be possible until the fascists are turfed out, which can only be done with voting for now.
We need politicians with actionable plans worth voting for
Reading is hard, yo
Oh I read that ya dick, I just have more than one braincell so I can see that that’s a slightly different point.
without a plan there is nothing to vote for. why would anyone vote for the status quo that the left/liberals so viciously defend?
The current status quo isn’t a boring democrat, it’s literally trump…
Isn’t Bluesky where all the left wing and Woke people moved to from Twitter when Elon Musk bought the thing?
