• The Mop Lord@moplemmy.fyi
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    I heard they got Stanley Kubrick to fake the landing, but he was such a stickler for accuracy he got them to actually go to the moon to film it.

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      I’m not sure how he was in 1969(?) but by the time he made Full Metal Jacket in the 1980s(?) he was so afraid of flying, he had palm trees brought in to England rather than shoot on location in Vietnam. Which is why all the palm trees in that movie look dead as hell. So I’m guessing he would not have gone to the moon, but would have had moon craters brought to him. Which means someone would have had to go to the moon to get them. Therefore, we went to the moon. Checkmate atheists.

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        Which is why all the palm trees in that movie look dead as hell.

        Should have waited a few decades, after this summer I’m sure Britain can support palm trees!

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    They wanted to fake a moon landing and after analyzing cost they concluded that the cheapest option was to film on location.

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    Most people I’ve brought the moon landing up to think the moon landing was fake. I usually point out a few examples to explain away the their arguments. Also I add that thinking it was fake is a huge slap in the face to all the skilled people who made it happen.

    I feel like I’m going crazy. But everything I’ve looked up are credible sources, unlike some stupid YouTuber pointing to the the flag and saying “there’s no wind on the moon, how do you explain that sheep!”

    They put a fucking pole through the top of the flag to keep it straight, because they also realize there was no fucking wind. A kindergarten could work out how to do that.

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      The real cover-up about the flag is so much more fun. The astronauts were sworn to secrecy for decades.

      Then decades later, some scientists were taking high resolution photos of the moon that weren’t quite good enough to see the flags themselves but did show the shadows of them. But they couldn’t see a shadow for the Apollo 11 flag, and then NASA had to come clean.

      When they took off from the Moon, Buzz Aldrin saw the thrust of the spacecraft blow the flag over. When he told NASA about it in the debriefing they told him “you can never tell anyone this.”

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      Best argument I’ve heard is that the Soviets never denied it happened. Same with the nazis and the Holocaust.

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    Opinions of the guy aside, I recall it was Neil DeGrasse Tyson who made the argument that it simply is cheaper and easier to go to the moon than to fake it and maintain the coverup.

    Like, we can’t keep secrets for shit, but that’s the one that stays kept?

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      They are already claiming that the Artemis mission was fake due to cuts between the camera shots on the livestream ಥ_ಥ

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        but artemis was fake. it didn’t grow on a tree. we had to build it.

        unless someone can show me a damn rocket what goes to the moon tree

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      The whole thing was a PR exercise to get one over on the Russians. Why not spend 5% more for a backup strategy to “document” the event

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      Jurassic Park came out in 1993 (can’t help but use this as a point of reference), but this does look consistent with lower budget stuff, like that Canadian cartoon Reboot. Anyone else remember that one?

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    That’s just a psyop, NASA and the CIA were hiding some of the world’s leading stable diffusion models for the time in a secret underground Data center somewhere in the Nevada desert.

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          But I thought the Stargate project was the US government’s current big AI thing?

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              But I thought that THAT Stargate project had its own naquadah and naquadriah based generators for decades now?

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                They did, but for regular base operations I believe they continued to use the electric grid. Like the lighting, computers, HVAC, elevators, communications, workshops, medical equipment, etc…

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                  I don’t think so, I mean, it cost $2bn just to turn the lights on at that place! And that was 1995 2 billion, not hyperinflated 2026 2 billion!

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    Now imagine how CGI was when they flew to the moon in 1969!

    The best argument against the moon landings being fake is the sheer amount of people involved in the Apollo project. Estimates go up to 400’000 people (with different levels of involvement). If it had all been fake, someone would have blabbed by now.

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      Actually the best argument would be that the Soviets didn’t raise holy hell about it being fake.

      Apollo 11 was able to be tracked by radio the entire trip to the moon. The radio transmissions and The television broadcast was unencrypted over plain radio. I’m sure the Soviets were able to verify the entire mission in real time. If there was even a hint that the moon landing was fake, the Soviets would have been throwing it in the US’s face the instant it happened.

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        You don’t think your conspiracies big enough. Obviously the Soviet Union was in on it, something, something New World Order. Nobody knows what’s to be gained for whom, but that is what conspiracy theories are made of.

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          This kills me the most. Most nations can’t agree on taxes or land boundaries or hundreds of other things, but they agree on space. Sure. That tracks.

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      One of my favorite quotes is “The only way three people can keep a secret is if two of them are dead”, from some random western movie, but yes people love to blab.

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        And you cannot deny the truth of that statement. I know that quote differently, btw: “Two can keep a secret, if one of them us dead.”, and I think that was from “Yes, Minister!” 😃

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      Beasties in Canada. I guess they didn’t like “wars” in the title of a kids show? But we got an American station too, so when we’d watch it in Ontario it’d be Beasties, and then we’d flip the channel and it’d be Beast Wars coming out of Buffalo. As far as I know everything else was the same, or at least I never noticed anything…

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          They did, actually yeah! And I agree it was a little weird. They had to hit the same “Oomph Oomph” pattern of Beast Wars, so it was “Bease Tees”, basically. It works, it’s the version that plays in my head when I think about it, but it’s definitely not as natural as two short words…

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            As a singer, I prefer Beasties. you sing the other one Bee sTwars anyways (unless you’re going especially staccatto, which they could be. haven’t heard it) and i have the fat tongue syndrome

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    I have had some sucess pointing out the USSR was tracking it and would love nothing more than to call out the US if they had faked it.

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    So what you’re saying is they not only faked the moon landing, they also kept these amazing computer graphics from us gamers all this time?

    Truly monstrous.