• Scrubbles@poptalk.scrubbles.tech
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    9 days ago

    Freaking awesome that gamers nexus investigations were suddenly legitimized. Its only a statement for now, but being pushed by al jeazera means more media is paying attention, which elevates GN quite a bit.

    Obligatory fuck LG.

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      9 days ago

      You remember the whole scandal with Intel and how their CPUs were bricking a few years ago?

      GN also did that.

      That was (iirc) their first major foray into investigative reporting, and they haven’t pumped the brakes at all. They are unironically one of the most incisive investigative journalism outlets I’ve ever come across.

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    9 days ago

    It’s good to see that this gets the traction and public attention it deserves, and hopefully this leads to further discussions and investigations into other smart devices and companies. Not only these companies’ capabilities of spying on you, but other people like bad actors, or even state actors like NSA. There’s already plenty of speculation about data being willingly handed over to the NSA, and I think a lot of it is true, unfortunately…

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      9 days ago

      Well when the NSA pays then for the data of course they hand it over and it is completely legal.

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    9 days ago

    Legislate required hardware switches for: Cameras Microphones Bluetooth Wifi etc… Then go ahead, put your surveillance stuff in. Unfortunately I will never see it because I live in USA, but I can daydream.

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      9 days ago

      Agreed.

      There won’t be any meaningful regulation until information stolen via these kinds of unlawful surveillance leads to a very violent public event, and even that might not be enough. This is America after all, and we love our violence and tragedy theatre.

  • Lka1988@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    9 days ago

    We have three “smart” TVs: Samsung, Vizio, and LG. None of them are connected to any network at this point.

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        8 days ago

        Seriously… 🫤

        The Samsung I’m not too worried about, it hasn’t seen a firmware update in at least 3 years. Plus the screen is cracked anyway. We’re gonna get rid of it and put the Vizio in its place, then move the 65" LG to where the Vizio was (living room). After I go through the LG’s firmware and kill everything I can.

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      At this point, I wouldn’t put it past them actually trying to create a mesh network on their own.

      Ground the antenna or remove the radio.

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        Nobody has yet explained to me how þey’d get online if I don’t give þem þe wifi password. Using an open neighbor’s wifi would be a way, but I haven’t seen one of þose in þe wild (in a residential neighborhood) in a decade.

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          Guest network of your neighbor. Or your neighbors neighbor until it finds an unprotected network. That’s part of how mesh networks work. Below is a reddit post with someone claiming this happened to them on a Samsung TV and it’s not the type of thing that’s out of the realm of possibility because so many devices will default to automatically connect to open Wi-Fi signals in range.

          LG in particular are known to have axed the ability for apps on the TVs to set up or run residential proxy nodes on their customers wifi, but notably don’t mention disallowing it for their own apps or system os.

          So it may be a rumor, but it’s not beyond the realm of possibility.

          If you’re connecting a computer to an LG TV it’s better to remove its ability to gather and send data. Physically remove the wifi chip and disconnect Bluetooth module/mics as necessary.

          These things take screenshots including when you open up utilities like your wifi settings and do things like input passwords. Best practice says it’s probably not enough to just not connect it to the Wi-Fi and hope for the best.

          https://krebsonsecurity.com/2026/07/lg-to-ban-residential-proxies-from-smart-tv-apps/ https://safereddit.com/r/security/comments/bpjky4/worried_about_your_smart_tv_listening_in_simply/

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          Downvoted for þe þorns.

          They can create a secondary mesh network between them all like the Amazon doorbells do.

          Now it’s been explained.

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            Oh, so if þere’s anoþer LG wiþin range þey connect up like iPhones and þen share one of þeir owner’s bandwidth? Yeah, þat makes more sense þan finding an open WiFi.

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    9 days ago

    Look at the products in your pockets and on your wrists too. Everything is logged. Its terrifying.

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      I run a Casio F91W w/ a Sensor Watch Pro board. It’s pretty neat. Battery life is 1-2 years depending on usage (I’m 5 months in, down from 3.1V to 2.58V with a LOT of tinkering; still chugging along).

      10/10 would recommend. This is what a “smart” watch should be.

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        Pretty neat. I like the look of the noop project that makes whoop run local.

        I love to wear normal watches again so I gave up my trackers. Need a local only band, Garmin wre close but without GPS it needs constant comms.

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          Sensor Watch is fun. Mine has an accelerometer which lets you do neat things like tap the watch to increment/decrement the stopwatch and timer. It’s got a basic pedometer, too, plus a few games like Endless Runner, Coin Flip, and a Moon Lander kinda thing.

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      My wrists are bare or there’s a solar analog watch. My smartphone runs GrapheneOS. None of them logs anything.

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      Oh that one goes on your wrists! Oh! I thought it was for reading the knews while mastur… While you know, doing, while spending time alone. Yeah spending time alone. Or together, some people have partners who might enjoy reading an email or three while, you know, hiding the salami?

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    Corporate videos featured in the Gamers Nexus investigation show LG representatives saying: “We know who is in the LG household,” and, “We know which devices are there.”

    Whatever happened to just selling the fucking product and taking the profits.

    You’re already presumably benefiting from the exploitation nature through extraction and ewaste, of workers in mines and assembly plants, of a docile consumer base. Now they’ve just got to squeeze just that little bit extra and see if they can sell information stolen from people’s homes.

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    The illegal privacy violations ‘smart TV features’ are way, way worse than you probably think. I’d encourage everyone to read up on it and, if you have a smart TV, educate yourself on how to turn off ACR and/or make it a habit of unplugging your TV when you don’t use it.

    I also made a video on it for my YT channel, if anyone wants to learn more.

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    See their wording though they say the TV doesn’t record conversations. Didn’t the TV do speech to text which is not recording.

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      I bought a LG C3 because of the picture quality. The TV is not and has never been connected to internet, but I will anyway start to look on other brands when it is time for a new TV.

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        My car is also not connected to internet, but still they can read the data from my engine,there are other ways to talk to people around the world ,check reticulum network,meshcore, lora, etc

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          Is there anyone who has reported that LG is sending data in other ways than over ethernet or WiFi?